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Post by fatwelshbuddha on Apr 29, 2014 13:30:46 GMT
When will people realise that owning a motorhome is not economically viable. You are at the mercy of the sharks companies who specialise in the leisure Industry. They pick us fat cats clean and take great pleasure by giving bad service. I did not necessarily include Peter Joe in that even though his employees at Peterborough said he was a complete and utter wanker. when we bought our 1st one 10 years ago, a friend commented "I could have about 10 years worth of good holidays for the price of that". and he probably wasn't far wrong. my current m/h cost me way more than my 3rd house but I doubt I'll get the 1980s price rise on the m/h that I got on that house.... they are frankly luxuries at the expensive end of the biz and I do wonder at times why we bother especially when it's sat in storage doing fuck all bar depreciating in value. but saying that, I live at a harbour and there are way more expensive luxuries berthed there, the vast majority of which never leave the bloody pontoons - they're effectively expensive floating garden sheds. (rant on) usually owned by wankers as well. my ex-Co-Director had a £100k's worth of yacht sat in the harbour that rarely got used, and when it did the stupid twat always got seasick!! it's now berthed in France and he goes and sits on it all fucking summer now that he's retired - what a fucking waste of a Beneteau. and it's the reason he's now an ex-Co-Director as the bastard said he didn't have any money when the biz needed some injecting a few years ago - when I pointed at the fucking boat, he said "I'm not using that as collateral" so I told him to fuck off pronto. (rant over) I'd hate to think how much money we'd have had to cough up for traditional holidays instead of those in the m/h, and hotels or b&b's when away for the odd night or 2 at weekends
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Post by JP on Apr 29, 2014 14:44:17 GMT
When will people realise that owning a motorhome is not economically viable. You are at the mercy of the sharks companies who specialise in the leisure Industry. They pick us fat cats clean and take great pleasure by giving bad service. I did not necessarily include Peter Joe in that even though his employees at Peterborough said he was a complete and utter wanker. when we bought our 1st one 10 years ago, a friend commented "I could have about 10 years worth of good holidays for the price of that". and he probably wasn't far wrong. my current m/h cost me way more than my 3rd house but I doubt I'll get the 1980s price rise on the m/h that I got on that house.... they are frankly luxuries at the expensive end of the biz and I do wonder at times why we bother especially when it's sat in storage doing fuck all bar depreciating in value. but saying that, I live at a harbour and there are way more expensive luxuries berthed there, the vast majority of which never leave the bloody pontoons - they're effectively expensive floating garden sheds. (rant on) usually owned by wankers as well. my ex-Co-Director had a £100k's worth of yacht sat in the harbour that rarely got used, and when it did the stupid twat always got seasick!! it's now berthed in France and he goes and sits on it all fucking summer now that he's retired - what a fucking waste of a Beneteau. and it's the reason he's now an ex-Co-Director as the bastard said he didn't have any money when the biz needed some injecting a few years ago - when I pointed at the fucking boat, he said "I'm not using that as collateral" so I told him to fuck off pronto. (rant over) I'd hate to think how much money we'd have had to cough up for traditional holidays instead of those in the m/h, and hotels or b&b's when away for the odd night or 2 at weekends I looked a a 10m berth in Sainte Maxime last week €90,000 + monthly charge, I've gone off getting a boat now unless its one i can drag out of the water when I'm not using it.
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Post by Barry B'stard on Apr 29, 2014 14:49:44 GMT
When will people realise that owning a motorhome is not economically viable. You are at the mercy of the sharks companies who specialise in the leisure Industry. They pick us fat cats clean and take great pleasure by giving bad service. I did not necessarily include Peter Joe in that even though his employees at Peterborough said he was a complete and utter wanker. when we bought our 1st one 10 years ago, a friend commented "I could have about 10 years worth of good holidays for the price of that". and he probably wasn't far wrong. my current m/h cost me way more than my 3rd house but I doubt I'll get the 1980s price rise on the m/h that I got on that house.... they are frankly luxuries at the expensive end of the biz and I do wonder at times why we bother especially when it's sat in storage doing fuck all bar depreciating in value. but saying that, I live at a harbour and there are way more expensive luxuries berthed there, the vast majority of which never leave the bloody pontoons - they're effectively expensive floating garden sheds. (rant on) usually owned by wankers as well. my ex-Co-Director had a £100k's worth of yacht sat in the harbour that rarely got used, and when it did the stupid twat always got seasick!! it's now berthed in France and he goes and sits on it all fucking summer now that he's retired - what a fucking waste of a Beneteau. and it's the reason he's now an ex-Co-Director as the bastard said he didn't have any money when the biz needed some injecting a few years ago - when I pointed at the fucking boat, he said "I'm not using that as collateral" so I told him to fuck off pronto. (rant over) I'd hate to think how much money we'd have had to cough up for traditional holidays instead of those in the m/h, and hotels or b&b's when away for the odd night or 2 at weekends Your friend is talking Cock. It depends how you use them. I know your looking at taking a step back from the business so I am guessing you havent done a really long trip yet. Thats when they become good value. Our six month trip in 2012 cost around £5500. How much would six months touring around Europe staying in hotels cost? The last proper 2 week holiday I had (and Im talking a fuck off villa in a posh part of the Greek Islands not 2 weeks in a shite hotel in Benidorm) cost about that much. A weekend in a hotel in this country is a couple of hundred quid. Even B&B's are no longer cheap. Then there is the hassle factor. Piece of piss to head off into France or Italy and park on an alp. No pissing around booking hotels or getting flights for me anymore! I suppose if I tally up just how much our van has cost with repairs etc it would be a fair amount but in the 6 years we have had it we have been in it for probably two of them if not more. Boats seem a bit different and when I had mine on Windermere and Ullswater certainly on windermere there were some Gin palaces that were never used. Mr Clairol's boat was a 60ft monster and was so big it had to park outside the mariner. I used my little boat all the time but he came and sat on his about twice a year. Made a cup of tea and ate a biscuit then buggered off. Never saw it go out once and it probably cost about £1.5M. What a knob.
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Post by Miculo on Apr 29, 2014 15:18:10 GMT
We came to vans from boats, because we couldn't piss off for the winter, the boat really couldn't be used in the UK at time of the year. Did consider taking off south in the boat but mainly due to not wanting to be overly weather dependent, the cost of berthing and the cost of fuel we decided to give a van a try.
A few years on I don't worry about the cost of being in the van and keeping it right, we find it's a lot less than the cost of keeping and running our boats was. We do miss boating at times though.
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Post by fatwelshbuddha on Apr 29, 2014 15:58:38 GMT
when we bought our 1st one 10 years ago, a friend commented "I could have about 10 years worth of good holidays for the price of that". and he probably wasn't far wrong. my current m/h cost me way more than my 3rd house but I doubt I'll get the 1980s price rise on the m/h that I got on that house.... they are frankly luxuries at the expensive end of the biz and I do wonder at times why we bother especially when it's sat in storage doing fuck all bar depreciating in value. but saying that, I live at a harbour and there are way more expensive luxuries berthed there, the vast majority of which never leave the bloody pontoons - they're effectively expensive floating garden sheds. (rant on) usually owned by wankers as well. my ex-Co-Director had a £100k's worth of yacht sat in the harbour that rarely got used, and when it did the stupid twat always got seasick!! it's now berthed in France and he goes and sits on it all fucking summer now that he's retired - what a fucking waste of a Beneteau. and it's the reason he's now an ex-Co-Director as the bastard said he didn't have any money when the biz needed some injecting a few years ago - when I pointed at the fucking boat, he said "I'm not using that as collateral" so I told him to fuck off pronto. (rant over) I'd hate to think how much money we'd have had to cough up for traditional holidays instead of those in the m/h, and hotels or b&b's when away for the odd night or 2 at weekends Your friend is talking Cock. It depends how you use them. I know your looking at taking a step back from the business so I am guessing you havent done a really long trip yet. Thats when they become good value. Our six month trip in 2012 cost around £5500. How much would six months touring around Europe staying in hotels cost? The last proper 2 week holiday I had (and Im talking a fuck off villa in a posh part of the Greek Islands not 2 weeks in a shite hotel in Benidorm) cost about that much. A weekend in a hotel in this country is a couple of hundred quid. Even B&B's are no longer cheap. Then there is the hassle factor. Piece of piss to head off into France or Italy and park on an alp. No pissing around booking hotels or getting flights for me anymore! I suppose if I tally up just how much our van has cost with repairs etc it would be a fair amount but in the 6 years we have had it we have been in it for probably two of them if not more. Boats seem a bit different and when I had mine on Windermere and Ullswater certainly on windermere there were some Gin palaces that were never used. Mr Clairol's boat was a 60ft monster and was so big it had to park outside the mariner. I used my little boat all the time but he came and sat on his about twice a year. Made a cup of tea and ate a biscuit then buggered off. Never saw it go out once and it probably cost about £1.5M. What a knob. I don't think he was talking cock, he just wasn't doing any joined up thinking - he was looking at the m/h solely as a holiday thing so with the average cost of a summer holiday being c£2500 in his mind and my 1st m/h costing £25K, hence his comment. But as you say "it's how you use them", and it's roughly what I said in my last sentence (in bold). If I look at the last 2 big holidays we've done not using the motorhome (cycling trips in India and Colombia - not the sort of thing you'd do in a m/h!), the combined costs came in at c£11k for the 2 of us with flights etc. You could buy a 2nd hand m/h for that!! It's balancing the luxury of the m/h with the practicality that non-m/h owners don't see 'cos they can't think past the price of a summer or winter traditional holiday. They don't think that you can go skiing with one, or take yourself off to the Med - they just don't see past the travel agents. We haven't done the big trip yet - that's true - but we know we will save a shitload of dosh and have more flexibility than any traditional big trip by doing so. Our problem is that we also like exploring further afield than what's realistically driveable, so we do at times (as above) need to get our long haul fix (that might have to go once we retire so we'll probably do a 6 months South America/Australasia trip before settling down). As triathlon referees, we are away most weekends for at least one night this summer - that just wouldn't be practical without the m/h as we usually have to be up at stupid o'clock (many start at 6am) so often stay on site at the venue or a local wild camp/pub stop. Motorhomes are only luxuries if you want them to be - much like boats - but for those of us who use them frequently throughout the year, we know we're onto a winner.
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Post by fatwelshbuddha on Apr 29, 2014 16:00:28 GMT
and that was fucking dull
what's brown and sticky??
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Post by Miculo on Apr 29, 2014 16:12:07 GMT
Don't know.
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Post by GB584 on Apr 29, 2014 16:12:49 GMT
Fuck it, made another expensive blunder...the missus heard me talking about rubber and S&M and now I've got to buy her a bloody outfit. I certainly shouldn't have mentioned that the side wall needed to be reinforced to stop bulging and need to be able to withstand several hundred kilos. Going to sleep in the van tonight just in case she hasn't forgiven me.
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Post by fatwelshbuddha on Apr 29, 2014 16:16:27 GMT
a stick
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Post by Miculo on Apr 29, 2014 16:19:54 GMT
Tee hee fuck.
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Post by fatwelshbuddha on Apr 29, 2014 16:26:04 GMT
oo - look - 200 posts (well 201 with this one)
do I get anything?? chlamydia?? keys to the Tower of London?? fuck all?? all three??
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Post by Barry B'stard on Apr 29, 2014 16:42:47 GMT
oo - look - 200 posts (well 201 with this one) do I get anything?? chlamydia?? keys to the Tower of London?? fuck all?? all three?? Yeah alright then! You get a "King of Swearing Award" You should have got that for "Hoofwanking Bunglecunts" really. Congratulations. I see GB584 and Robocop JP are very close to their 100 posts Knighthoods!! Tee Hee!
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Post by Barry B'stard on Apr 29, 2014 16:43:25 GMT
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Post by Miculo on Apr 29, 2014 16:59:03 GMT
Brian, you saddo. Imagine not knowing that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2014 17:18:10 GMT
When will people realise that owning a motorhome is not economically viable. You are at the mercy of the sharks companies who specialise in the leisure Industry. They pick us fat cats clean and take great pleasure by giving bad service. I did not necessarily include Peter Joe in that even though his employees at Peterborough said he was a complete and utter wanker. Whilst it is true that their are a lot of sharks in the leisure industry, as well as companies who are not interested in after-sales service (which is not necessarily the same thing as being a shark), I don't believe that one can unequivocally state that ' owning a motorhome is not economically viable', as it all depends on how one uses the vehicle in question. For the last 25 years, the only vehicles I have owned have been MHs. Nevertheless, allowing for the increased costs of MH owning (and running) as opposed to those of a decent car (less the amount saved in not having to pay for air/train/coach fares to destinations, the cost of accommodation once there, and the ability immediately to pick up sticks and move to somewhere new for any reason at all), I have no doubt that owing a MH has actually saved me an immense amount of money - as if all the benefits could be quantified in monetary terms - even after allowing for club memberships and camping fees. However, I would not dream of suggesting that owning a MH is economically beneficial for all owners of them because, as I said previously, it all depends on how one uses them.
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