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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 19:42:58 GMT
I saw the footage of the efforts of Greenpeace to board the ship and to my mind that is an act of piracy. They put themselves, others and the ship in danger and I am surprised the Ruskies let them go. I can only think some political inducement has happened bethind closed embassies.
While I may or may not support their aims, I cannot support this sort of thing which I believe is only drawing attention to themselves and not the cause they claim to support.
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Post by gemmy on Nov 20, 2013 19:56:22 GMT
Too true, the Gulags beckoned.Might make Greenpeace act more responsible, bet it's a long time before they attack Russia again.They might get sunk and lost without trace next time. tony
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Post by prof20 on Nov 20, 2013 20:35:54 GMT
They wondered what hit them when the Spetsnaz dropped in for a friendly chat... May we have a word?Roger
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 20:46:54 GMT
Seems the Russians have kindly shown them the easy way to get on ships in the future. Lessons learned by the hard working people.
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Post by oldgit on Nov 20, 2013 20:48:07 GMT
They wondered what hit them when the Spetsnaz dropped in for a friendly chat... May we have a word?Roger Sorry I think your wrong Greenpeace do a very good job of drawing attention to the dangers to the planet by greedy industrialists and I have supported um for years, it takes a lot of guts to do a lot of the antics they get up to.
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Post by Miculo on Nov 20, 2013 20:53:23 GMT
The French already sunk one, in NZ. Rainbow Warrior 1985. The Ruskies can hire them next time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2013 21:20:32 GMT
They wondered what hit them when the Spetsnaz dropped in for a friendly chat... May we have a word?Roger Sorry I think your wrong Greenpeace do a very good job of drawing attention to the dangers to the planet by greedy industrialists and I have supported um for years, it takes a lot of guts to do a lot of the antics they get up to. I understand your view but the Russians were not doing anything illegal and Greenpeace was under international law. If one is someone that thinks bad law should be tackled by illegal methods then I suppose you have a point.
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Post by penquin on Nov 20, 2013 22:13:30 GMT
If the Russian's act was legal in storming a ship with armed warriors from a helicopter simply because they were in the wrong place, doing the wrong thing and in contravention of international law, why did the Royal Navy not use the same tactics on the Spanish ship in Gibraltar waters yesterday? Surely that would have been legally justified for the same reasons.....
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Post by prof20 on Nov 20, 2013 22:14:34 GMT
Good luck to these eco-warriors and their sometimes misguided causes, but in their bid to become martyrs they have probably, unfortunately in this case, badly miscalculated, and succeeded in that aim. They will certainly try and milk maximum publicity out of this episode, but I don't think that it has captivated the interest of the world as they probably thought it would. They knew exactly what they were doing to my mind, tweaking the tail of the Russian bear. The Russians do not mess about when threatened. Even if released, they will probably never get their ship back from Ivan. Just seen on news the captain and three British activists, with five others have been bailed. Activists BailedRoger
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Post by peribro on Nov 20, 2013 23:13:39 GMT
I think the naivety of the Greenpeace protesters is beyond belief. What did they seriously expect the Russians to do after storming one of their oil rigs? Well done Russia and it's just a shame that Sussex Police couldn't have adopted similar tactics when a load of unwashed, tree hugging, Guardian readers stormed the shale drilling site in Balcombe. I would have left them locked up for far longer than the Russians have done if I had been Police Commissioner - I must remember to stand in the next election!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 14:02:40 GMT
If the Russian's act was legal in storming a ship with armed warriors from a helicopter simply because they were in the wrong place, doing the wrong thing and in contravention of international law, why did the Royal Navy not use the same tactics on the Spanish ship in Gibraltar waters yesterday? Surely that would have been legally justified for the same reasons..... I think because many MP's have holiday homes in Spain and leaving that aside, we are frightened of being beaten up as we have nothing left to fight with other than Eurocourt.
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Post by oldgit on Nov 22, 2013 6:45:33 GMT
I think the naivety of the Greenpeace protesters is beyond belief. What did they seriously expect the Russians to do after storming one of their oil rigs? Well done Russia and it's just a shame that Sussex Police couldn't have adopted similar tactics when a load of unwashed, tree hugging, Guardian readers stormed the shale drilling site in Balcombe. I would have left them locked up for far longer than the Russians have done if I had been Police Commissioner - I must remember to stand in the next election! What ticket would you stand under the far right?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 8:19:03 GMT
Funny how you have to stand for election and if you win, you get a seat. Bit like the railways.
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Post by ray on Nov 22, 2013 13:52:02 GMT
Hi.
A quick bit of history..
When the nations were in the arms race and they were letting Atom bombs off all over the place, and we were on the "Ban the Bomb" marches, a group of folk who were the fledgling Green Peace decided to go in a yacht to one of the Pacific Atolls that a French test was going to be carried out on. The upshot was they couldn't detonate it as these silly buggers in a yacht were sailing within the no inclusion zone, they did this beyond the twelve mile limit on the high seas..
So this went on until the French decided they had enough and sent in the commandos who boarded the yacht on the high seas beat up the three men and two woman and took over the yacht, the Greenpeace fledglings had laid a trap because one of the woman was filming it all the time it was happening with her still camera, as the commandos went for her she bobbed down the front hatch locking it so they had to get to her via the cabin, they had put an identical camera on the table and the girl hid in the toilet and hid the origional camera, the commando thinking this was the camera threw it overboard, while she took the camera roll of film out and pushed it up her fanny to smuggle it out so she could pass it on to show the world, the film not her fanny. I think one of the blokes lost a finger in it all, and it showed the brutality of the commandos boarding a yacht on the high seas, so who's pirates here?. The upshot of it all was bit by bit it all came out and the number of countries including the UK that was behind it was unbelievable....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 18:18:11 GMT
Hi.
A quick bit of history..
When the nations were in the arms race and they were letting Atom bombs off all over the place, and we were on the "Ban the Bomb" marches, a group of folk who were the fledgling Green Peace decided to go in a yacht to one of the Pacific Atolls that a French test was going to be carried out on. The upshot was they couldn't detonate it as these silly buggers in a yacht were sailing within the no inclusion zone, they did this beyond the twelve mile limit on the high seas..
So this went on until the French decided they had enough and sent in the commandos who boarded the yacht on the high seas beat up the three men and two woman and took over the yacht, the Greenpeace fledglings had laid a trap because one of the woman was filming it all the time it was happening with her still camera, as the commandos went for her she bobbed down the front hatch locking it so they had to get to her via the cabin, they had put an identical camera on the table and the girl hid in the toilet and hid the origional camera, the commando thinking this was the camera threw it overboard, while she took the camera roll of film out and pushed it up her fanny to smuggle it out so she could pass it on to show the world, the film not her fanny. I think one of the blokes lost a finger in it all, and it showed the brutality of the commandos boarding a yacht on the high seas, so who's pirates here?. The upshot of it all was bit by bit it all came out and the number of countries including the UK that was behind it was unbelievable....
So!.
ray. If I had been a commando, that is the first place I would have looked.
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