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Post by Milly on Dec 14, 2020 16:55:06 GMT
6 caravan and one motorhome never been heated over winter, never came to any harm, but we have never been winter users, Sal is/was so I ´d say it´s best to keep a little heat on and not let the van cool right down. And of course money is never any object to the rich bitch posh totty.
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Post by Barry B'stard on Dec 14, 2020 18:36:46 GMT
Well its maybe not such a daft idea. I never used to bother draining down probably because i never realised you had to. 2010/11 really harsh winter we set off to Hawkshead in the Lake District for Christmas and it was like a winter wonderland. All the lakes were frozen. Got to the CL, filled up with water which we had to do from the owners house as the outside taps were all frozen solid and nothing. No water. All the internal pipes had frozen water in them and were solid. It literally took three days to defrost them. Had to point a fan heater in the bathroom at that area of wall I Assumed the blockage was at. Michelle was not impressed. After that I made sure I drained it all properly. Oh I forgot to take the plastic shower head off one year which still had water in it and it froze and the thing just fell to bits.
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Post by Sir Rowley Birkin on Dec 14, 2020 18:48:26 GMT
One of the main things to watch out for in winter is your indicator fluid freezing up.... I have been lambasted elsewhere for saying ( or indeed even thinking of ) this.. We just plug in, leave the heating on low etc. We are fully winterised so nothing will freeze. Even the indicator fluid so now the tight fisted brigade will have a right pop and tell me I shouldnt use my heating for actually heating a van as its expensive stuff and it may break. Jesus. I hope you lot are mad enough to understand my total idiocy for using something for its actual function.
I actually agree with you, Sal. It's very important to keep "damp" at bay, otherwise that horrible background smell takes over and you just can't get rid of it.
I would recommend using a small dehumidifier instead, though - use one that has low wattage heater built in and you're laughing... a 'van that's "warmish" AND devoid of any damp whatsoever. They're only about £100-150 for a suitably sized one.
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Post by Joe66 on Dec 14, 2020 19:10:35 GMT
I have been lambasted elsewhere for saying ( or indeed even thinking of ) this.. We just plug in, leave the heating on low etc. We are fully winterised so nothing will freeze. Even the indicator fluid so now the tight fisted brigade will have a right pop and tell me I shouldnt use my heating for actually heating a van as its expensive stuff and it may break. Jesus. I hope you lot are mad enough to understand my total idiocy for using something for its actual function.
I actually agree with you, Sal. It's very important to keep "damp" at bay, otherwise that horrible background smell takes over and you just can't get rid of it.
I would recommend using a small dehumidifier instead, though - use one that has low wattage heater built in and you're laughing... a 'van that's "warmish" AND devoid of any damp whatsoever. They're only about £100-150 for a suitably sized one.
I read on another site not to use a dehumidifier because it 'draws' damp air from outside the van.
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Post by Salomon on Dec 14, 2020 19:12:14 GMT
Like Milly says, we use our van in winter usually so draining down is not an option. If we just used a space heater then that would not keep all the tanks and pipes safe like the built in system. We will just leave him plugged in when he is not used. Will fill up the gas tanks en route and have the heating running for the week or so we will be up the mountains. We cannot plug in as the road is too far from the house ! And it will be cold at 1400m...
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Post by Barry B'stard on Dec 14, 2020 20:37:54 GMT
I have been lambasted elsewhere for saying ( or indeed even thinking of ) this.. We just plug in, leave the heating on low etc. We are fully winterised so nothing will freeze. Even the indicator fluid so now the tight fisted brigade will have a right pop and tell me I shouldnt use my heating for actually heating a van as its expensive stuff and it may break. Jesus. I hope you lot are mad enough to understand my total idiocy for using something for its actual function. I actually agree with you, Sal. It's very important to keep "damp" at bay, otherwise that horrible background smell takes over and you just can't get rid of it. I would recommend using a small dehumidifier instead, though - use one that has low wattage heater built in and you're laughing... a 'van that's "warmish" AND devoid of any damp whatsoever. They're only about £100-150 for a suitably sized one.
How can you get damp from leaving your van out in the cold? It just gets cold not damp. Will you not get condensation from heating the van when its cold outside which will lead to damp? Is it not better to make sure there is air flow? See if you get a Kontiki there is plenty of air flow from all the holes in them.
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Post by Milly on Dec 14, 2020 20:41:44 GMT
I actually agree with you, Sal. It's very important to keep "damp" at bay, otherwise that horrible background smell takes over and you just can't get rid of it. I would recommend using a small dehumidifier instead, though - use one that has low wattage heater built in and you're laughing... a 'van that's "warmish" AND devoid of any damp whatsoever. They're only about £100-150 for a suitably sized one. How can you get damp from leaving your van out in the cold? It just gets cold not damp. Will you not get condensation from heating the van when its cold outside which will lead to damp? Is it not better to make sure there is air flow? See if you get a Kontiki there is plenty of air flow from all the holes in them. He can´t help being a twat, this is exactly what I have been saying for ever, we have never had trouble with damp in 6 caravans and 1 motorhome we have possessed, there´s plenty of air flow in them all to keep them dry.
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Post by Barry B'stard on Dec 14, 2020 20:43:57 GMT
Loving this thread!! A Proper motorhome I know best thread! Just like the old days of FUCTS!!!
Personally I think anyone that puts washing powder in their thetford rather than buying the blue stuff is a tight arsed twat and deserves to get a blocked crapper!!!
Next!
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Post by Sir Rowley Birkin on Dec 14, 2020 21:34:09 GMT
I actually agree with you, Sal. It's very important to keep "damp" at bay, otherwise that horrible background smell takes over and you just can't get rid of it.
I would recommend using a small dehumidifier instead, though - use one that has low wattage heater built in and you're laughing... a 'van that's "warmish" AND devoid of any damp whatsoever. They're only about £100-150 for a suitably sized one.
I read on another site not to use a dehumidifier because it 'draws' damp air from outside the van.
That's true, Joe, if you have a crappy UK 'van, which is built to the Caravan Constructor's Code, with vents to the outside fitted all over the place.
But if you have a continental 'van, certainly a German one, they have vents that you CHOOSE to open or not.
When running my dehumidifier in my Hymer, I chose not to open any vents. I also ensured that the cab heater vents were shut. On my previous AutoSleepers, I spent some time blocking off their random vents prior to switching on my dehumidifier, which have kept my various motorhomes dry and sweet-smelling.
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Post by Sir Rowley Birkin on Dec 14, 2020 21:47:35 GMT
How can you get damp from leaving your van out in the cold? It just gets cold not damp. Will you not get condensation from heating the van when its cold outside which will lead to damp? Is it not better to make sure there is air flow? See if you get a Kontiki there is plenty of air flow from all the holes in them. He can´t help being a twat, this is exactly what I have been saying for ever, we have never had trouble with damp in 6 caravans and 1 motorhome we have possessed, there´s plenty of air flow in them all to keep them dry. I think you're the twat, Mildew. And a gobby one at that!!
Your experience is perfectly dry caravans , with plenty of (damp) winter air flow in them? Good for you - you won't need a dehumidifier. Lucky you.
My experience happens to be different to you, that's all. I've experienced chilly, damp motorhomes and I've found a way to keep them dried and aired.
Regarding "air flow", Baz, I'm assuming the air is bone dry? Yes? 'Cos if it's damp winter foggy misty air flowing through your'van, then it ain't dry and it's making your furniture damp. Unless the Laws of Physics don't apply to you?
I'm not arguing this. I've given you the benefit of what I've discovered. Don't believe me. I don't care.
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Post by Milly on Dec 14, 2020 22:02:57 GMT
He can´t help being a twat, this is exactly what I have been saying for ever, we have never had trouble with damp in 6 caravans and 1 motorhome we have possessed, there´s plenty of air flow in them all to keep them dry. I think you're the twat, Mildew. And a gobby one at that!!
Your experience is perfectly dry caravans , with plenty of (damp) winter air flow in them? Good for you - you won't need a dehumidifier. Lucky you.
My experience happens to be different to you, that's all. I've experienced chilly, damp motorhomes and I've found a way to keep them dried and aired.
Regarding "air flow", Baz, I'm assuming the air is bone dry? Yes? 'Cos if it's damp winter foggy misty air flowing through your'van, then it ain't dry and it's making your furniture damp. Unless the Laws of Physics don't apply to you?
I'm not arguing this. I've given you the benefit of what I've discovered. Don't believe me. I don't care. Cheeky sod, when I next see you time you´ll get a bunch of fives on yet hooter, what about all the caravans and motorhome on the dealers forecourts all over winter, you don´t think they put heaters or dehumidifiers in them do you? eh! eh? course they bloody don´t.
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Post by Sir Rowley Birkin on Dec 14, 2020 22:26:02 GMT
I think you're the twat, Mildew. And a gobby one at that!!
Your experience is perfectly dry caravans , with plenty of (damp) winter air flow in them? Good for you - you won't need a dehumidifier. Lucky you.
My experience happens to be different to you, that's all. I've experienced chilly, damp motorhomes and I've found a way to keep them dried and aired.
Regarding "air flow", Baz, I'm assuming the air is bone dry? Yes? 'Cos if it's damp winter foggy misty air flowing through your'van, then it ain't dry and it's making your furniture damp. Unless the Laws of Physics don't apply to you?
I'm not arguing this. I've given you the benefit of what I've discovered. Don't believe me. I don't care. Cheeky sod, when I next see you time you´ll get a bunch of fives on yet hooter, what about all the caravans and motorhome on the dealers forecourts all over winter, you don´t think they put heaters or dehumidifiers in them do you? eh! eh? course they bloody don´t.
And have you SMELLED some of those damp forecourt 'vans...? No, of course you haven't. I have.
Now, push off and go to bed... You're becoming tiresome...
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Post by Milly on Dec 14, 2020 23:10:47 GMT
Cheeky sod, when I next see you time you´ll get a bunch of fives on yet hooter, what about all the caravans and motorhome on the dealers forecourts all over winter, you don´t think they put heaters or dehumidifiers in them do you? eh! eh? course they bloody don´t.
And have you SMELLED some of those damp forecourt 'vans...? No, of course you haven't. I have.
Now, push off and go to bed... You're becoming tiresome... probably because the person that was in there a Minute before you had farted.
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Post by Barry B'stard on Dec 14, 2020 23:39:50 GMT
LOL! fantastic! A massive scrap not about Brexit! Take no notice of Boggers Milly. He is full of shit! I have had my van longer than any of you. 12 feckin years. Left it on the drive all winter, sometimes used, sometimes not. Never got any damp or issues from leaving it over winter. Then again Hank is a legendary Kontiki the longest still in production MH ever!
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Post by Salomon on Dec 15, 2020 10:03:29 GMT
Each to his own. We dont use dehumidifiers in the house and thats pretty damp when it rains a lot. maybe we should... The van has massive condensation inside in winter when we use it...2 hoomans and 2 woofers all shut in. We open windows a crack if temps allow...but often have ice in the top cupboards back wall. towels sort it. I went into the van yesterday for the first time in at least 6 months. No smell. No damp. The heating does its job...quelle suprise.
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